Archives For October 2007

I received an e-mail from someone asking about road closures in Malibu after the fire:

HI JOHN:

I SAW A BLOG WITH YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION.

I AM HOPING YOU CAN TELL ME WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE ROAD CLOSURES IN
THE MALIBU AREA AS WE ARE TRAVELING WITH MAPQUEST.

IS LAS VIRGINES CLOSED? WE ARE TRYING TO REACH A HOME IN THE MAHOU
RIVIERA AREA FROM A BURBANK HOTEL TAKING VENTURA FWY.

I APPRECIATE ANY ADVICE YOU MAY HAVE FOR ME.

I normally don’t answer messages in ALL CAPS, {grin} but I figured if one person is asking, probably more people are curious.

The LA County Department of Public Works shows no road closures from the fire. (Some lane closures due to storms, but all date from 2005 — and it’s still very possible to get around the lane closures.)

The City of Calabasas says, “Malibu Canyon is now OPEN but subject to intermittent closure for electrical repairs.” They don’t list any other roads as closed.

The City of Malibu says that, “The Fire Department reports that the access roads to Rambla Pacifico are currently open to residents only, with identification. There are no other reported road closures. Please avoid Civic Center Way between Cross Creek and Webb Way as this is a Fire staging area.”

(This is typical of the type of information I was working with during the fire. While there was often a general consensus between sources, they often differed on details.)

To answer the person’s specific question: Las Virgenes Rd. / Malibu Canyon Rd are intermittently closed. You could certainly get through, but you might have to wait. Kanan Dume Rd. is probably a better bet for you.

(It’s nice to be able to write good news here.)

Tipster Michelle E. sent in the following:

EPA Offers Tips to Protect Health from Wildfire Smoke

During the current wave of forest fires, EPA has the following recommendations on how to protect your health from the effects of smoke.

  • Pay attention to local air quality reports and stay alert to any news coverage or health warnings related to smoke. Air quality reports are based on data from local air quality monitors, recommending health precautions. Recent information is available at http://www.epa.gov and www.airnow.gov.
  • Use common sense. If it looks smoky outside, avoid physical outside activities and don’t let your children play outdoors.
  • If you are advised to stay indoors, keep indoor air as clean as possible. Keep your windows and doors closed — unless it’s extremely hot outside.
  • Run your air conditioner, if you have one. Keep the fresh air intake closed and the filter clean to prevent bringing additional smoke inside.
  • If you don’t have an air conditioner, staying inside with the windows closed may be dangerous in extremely hot weather. In these cases, seek alternative shelter.
  • When indoors, avoid smoking and using:
      wood fireplaces

    • gas logs
    • gas stoves
    • candles
    • the vacuum
  • If you have asthma or other lung disease, make sure you follow your doctor’s directions about taking your medicines and following your asthma management plan. Call your doctor if your symptoms worsen.
  • If you have heart or lung disease, if you are an older adult, or if you have children, talk with your doctor about whether and when you should leave the area.
    For more information about health hazards related to wildfires, visit the Web site of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention at http://emergency.cdc.gov/disasters/wildfires.
    Click here for additional news on Environmental Protection magazine’s Web site, posted daily.
    Also search the Web site’s archives for additional articles related to wildfires, including: “Study: Wildfires Unleash Sequestered Mercury In Wetlands.”

A friend of mine is part of an effort to find temporary homes for pets made homeless by the fires. Not all shelters will allow people with pets in; neither will all motels/hotels. Hosting a pet for a few days can really be a boost for someone who’s looking for a place to stay. If my place had burned, I know I’d be better able to focus on finding a new place if I knew my pets were safe.

If you can offer up your house for a few days or a little longer, e-mail normandie.wilson@gmail.com with your details.

I’m staying at my parents’ tonight, but taking my stuff back home to Topanga tomorrow. Conditions appear significantly better, and there does not appear to be a threat to Topanga or Malibu at this time.

Malibu Fire Day 3 (Oct 23)

October 23, 2007 — 12 Comments

I’m at my parent’s house, completely safe. I’ll be working from there today. Updates follow:

Update 8:46 AM: CBS’s Fire Fact Sheet (Dated 9 PM Oct 22):

AS OF 9PM
• 3,800 acres burned
• More than 200 homes evacuated
• 1,500 residents evacuated
• 10 homes and 6 businesses damaged
• 1,400 fire personnel deployed
• No injuries reported
• 10 percent containment

ROAD CLOSURES
• PCH closed northbound and southbound between Topanga Canyon and Kanan-Dume Road
• Topanga Canyon closed north at PCH
• Kanan-Dume Rd. closed northbound and southbound between PCH and Mullholland
• Las Virgenes closed at Mulholland

EVACUATIONS
• Residents in Puerco Canyon
• Residents along the beach on Malibu Road
• Residents in Malibu Colony
• Residents in Montenito
• Residents in Sweet Water Canyon
• Voluntary evacuations in Coral Canyon

EVACUATION CENTERS
• Zuma Beach Parking Lot
• Malibu High School — 30215 Morning View Drive
• Pacific Palisades High School — 15777 Bowdoin Street, Pacific Palisades
• Agoura High School — 28545 Driver Avenue, Agoura Hills
• Time Warner Marriott in Woodland Hills is offering discounted rates to displaced residents. Call Tina Firestone at 818-884-6273.

PET AND ANIMAL CENTERS
• West Hills Pet Clinic — 23333 Mulholland Drive, Woodland Hills. Call 818-222-7387
• Pierce College is taking large animals — 6201 Winnetka Avenue, Woodland Hills.
• Agoura Shelter is taking small animals — 29525 Agoura Road. Agoura Hills. Call 818-991-0071
EvacMyPet

SCHOOL CLOSURES
• Classes canceled at Pepperdine’s Malibu campus
• All Malibu public schools
• Topanga Elementary School in Malibu
• Viewpoint School in Calabasas
• Pinecrest Schools

CANCELLATIONS
• MTA Line 534, which runs along Pacific Coast Highway
• The Calabasas Pumpkin Festival at Juan Bautista de Anza Festival Park

News there seems to be the increased acreage count and the damaged structure count.

Update 9:01 AM: News from HereInMalibu

A different mood in town today, where the staging area at the Civic Center has grown and become more organized. Firefighters from many counties tend to their rigs and their gear. Breakfast is served, even as helicopters fly over, low and loud, on their way to Pepperdine’s water source.

The roadblock between western Malibu and town is gone. The Shell station is open and selling gas. Businesses remain closed, though some storefronts have lights on as owners return.

Here’s today’s sunrise, from Bluffs Park. Huge plume of smoke from southern fires drifts across the skyline.

Update 9:12 AM: LA County Fire reports 10% containment on 3,800 acres.

Update 9:18 AM: T-CEP says Topanga Road Closure has been lifted for residents only; still closed for everyone else.

Posted 12:36 am 10-23
After many reports of Residents being denied access this evening, LACFD has verified a joint order by Fire and Sheriff’s Dept. to not allow ANY residents into Topanga, via the valley or PCH. It is unknown when this order will be lifted. We will update as soon as we can gain clarification.

Please be aware that if residents leave they may not be allowed back into the canyon.

RESTRICTION LIFTED
Updated 10-23 8:00 am: The restriction on Residents entering Topanga via all access roads has been lifted. Topanga Cyn. blvd is closed to all but Residents With Proper ID. The reason for this restriction was the Fire & Sherriffs concern that the Mandatory Evacuation areas may have been entered since patrol cars had not been adequately posted at the entry points.

Update 9:25 AM: Pepperdine Status

October 23rd, 2007 at 7:00 AM

Malibu Canyon Fire Update

Pepperdine officials have announced that classes will not be held on the Malibu campus today, October 23. Events scheduled for today on the Malibu campus have also been cancelled as the University continues to work closely with local, county, and state fire officials in response to the Malibu Canyon fire. Only critical support personnel should report for work.

All Pepperdine campuses outside Malibu remain open for classes.

All roads leading to the Malibu campus are closed at this time. Information about current road closures is available on the road condition hotline at (310) 506-ROAD (7623).

At the present time, students, faculty, and staff on the Malibu campus remain safe and it is recommended that they not leave campus.

Conditions remain unchanged since 7 p.m. last night.

Update 9:28 AM: LA Times Google Map of SoCal Fires. Their info, from Oct 22 7:30 PM

Acres burned: 3,800
Destroyed: 6 homes, 2 commercial and business buildings, church.
Damaged: 5 businesses, 9 homes damaged.
Containment: 8%
People evacuated: 1,500

Point of origin: Malibu Canyon Road at Piuma Road
Burned toward Pacific and Pepperdine University, then moved southeast.
Direction burning: Southeast
Threatened: 600 homes, 200 commercial, 100 outbuildings.
Firefighters dispatched: 1,500 firefighters
Injuries to residents: none
Injuries to firefighters: none
Time of start: 4:50 a.m., 10-21
Possible cause: Downed power lines

Update 9:32 AM: T-CEP says 15% contained; full containment expected by Friday Oct. 26. (Info as of 8:20 AM Oct 23.)

Latest update Oct 23 8:20 am:
Fire has currently burned 4400 acres, and even with increase of area since last night, the containment level is now increased from 8% to 15%. LACFD reported the perimteter of the fire is essentially the same (see below). LACFD also expects full containment by Friday Oct. 26.

Update 9:35 AM: LA County Fire reports acreage at 4400+ and containment at 15%. Good news, and matches T-CEP info from earlier. Even better news is T-CEP statement above that “perimeter of the fire is essentially the same.”

Update 9:38 AM: Good news from HereInMalibu:

I just drove from Trancas to Cross Creek and back and the city’s getting back to normal. Tancas Market is open, as is the Starbucks there. Lots of espresso, pastries and war stories. No newspapers, but people are being pretty good about sharing.Trancas Chevron, the Point Dume gas station, the 76 station near Corral, and the Chevron next to Malibu Urgent Care still closed. Shell at Cross Creek still seems to be the only game in town.

Ralphs and CVS both open. Parking lot filling up with people shopping, staring, and taking pix like the one below.

Lots of tents going up at the command center at the Civic Center, presumably so firefighters can get some sleep. Water drops continue on lingering hot spots, but scanner talk says things are close to being under control.

Some fire companies already heading south. Kern County’s convoy got big cheers and loud honks from locals driving by.

Update 9:57 AM: Lots of photos from Flickr
Check out the following for some great/horrible photos from Flickr about the Malibu fire. I’ve requested permission to post most of these on blog.sudosu.net; when I get permission I’ll post them here.

Spaceman Spiffy
Spectacular ground-level shots of fire.
Shots of fire from an airplane.
Shots of fire and helicopters from along the beach
Shots from in and around Pepperdine
More helicopter shots.
Multiple shots of Malibu fire
Malibu fire shots from a photojournalist
Photo of Malibu fire from the air.
More Malibu fire photos.

Update 9:57 AM: City Of Malibu Evacuation Info as of 9:30 AM Oct 23

The Fire Department advises that there have been no changes in evacuation information. The following evacutation orders remain in place:Mandatory evacuations: Malibu Knolls, Malibu Colony, Sweetwater Canyon, Malibu Road, Carbon Canyon, Carbon Mesa, Puerco Canyon, Rambla Pacifico, Monte Nido, Big Rock and Topanga Canyon south of Saddle Peak and Tuna Canyon, Schueren Road, Piuma Road. The evacuation route from Piuma and Schueren is Stunt Road to Mulholland to Topanga north.

Voluntary evacuations: Corral Canyon, Sunset Mesa, Old Topanaga Canyon, Hillside Drive and areas south.

Red Cross Evacuation Centers have been set up at Agoura High School and Palisades High School.

Update 9:59 AM: City of Malibu Fire Map as of Oct 23 6 AM — M, we need your Photoshop magic to interpret this!

Update 10:03 AM: News from The Malibu Times (Thanks to M for the tip — see his comment below.) Things do seem to be looking up. This one is closer to under control. Still, if you’re in a Mandatory Evac zone, GO.

Malibu fire update 8:30 a.m. TuesdayBy Jonathan Friedman, Meredith Rodriguez and Laura Tate / The Malibu Times

The Malibu fire has scorched up 4,400 acres. Flames continue to burn on the ridges of Las Flores Canyon, but are not moving down the canyon or the valley side. Fire Captain Kurt Schaefer, public information officer for the Los Angeles County Fire Department, said containment of the fire is now 15 percent. The Santa Ana winds were predicted to end today, but officials say they will continue through to Wednesday afternoon. Schaefer said they still expect to have the fire extinguished by Friday.

“We have a better feeling about this fire,” Schaefer said, “but we’ll have an even better feeling once the Santa Ana winds go away.

“The threat is still out there.”

Fire personnel in the area have been reduced from 1,700 to 900.

Update 10:10 AM: News from HereInMalibu

* Check out the Malibu Times’ amazing photo of a water drop.* Malibu Surfside News has this photo gallery.

* Some Fire Stats:

About 4,500 acres burned.
No injuries or fatalities.
Fire nearly 20 percent contained.
Officials peg Friday as probable date for fire, which still burns in the Las Flores are, to be completely out.
Winds, now intermittent, expected to end on Wednesday.

Update 10:12 AM: Pepperdine update from 10:00 AM

October 23rd, 2007 at 10:00 AMMalibu Canyon Fire Update

Pepperdine officials have announced that classes will not be held on the Malibu campus today, October 23. Events scheduled for today on the Malibu campus have also been cancelled as the University continues to work closely with local, county, and state fire officials in response to the Malibu Canyon fire. Only critical support personnel should report for work.

All Pepperdine campuses outside Malibu remain open for classes.

All roads leading to the Malibu campus are closed at this time. Information about current road closures is available on the road condition hotline at (310) 506-ROAD (7623).

At the present time, students, faculty, and staff on the Malibu campus remain safe and it is recommended that they not leave campus.

Update 10:13 AM: Additional NASA Satellite photo from yesterday afternoon.

NASA satellites continue to capture remarkable new images of the wildfires raging in Southern California. At least 14 massive fires are reported to have scorched about 425 square miles from north of Los Angeles to southeast of San Diego.These latest images, captured by NASA satellites on the afternoon of October 22, show the thick, billowing smoke coming off the numerous large fires and spreading over the Pacific Ocean. Fire activity is outlined in red.

Update 10:20 AM — SUMMARY: Things appear to be looking up for the Malibu / Canyon fire. It hasn’t moved much from where it was last night, and containment figures are up. A change in wind direction means all bets are off, and there could still be houses very close to the fire that are threatened — but for everyone else, things are looking up. Fires elsewhere in the state aren’t cooperating as much, and there’s lots of bad news from those fires. The Western side of the Malibu / Canyon fire appears to be under control, and the Eastern side appears to be holding. If you are in a mandatory evacuation area, you should still GET OUT IMMEDIATELY. If you are in a voluntary evacuation area, use your own judgement based on this and other news sources, and what you can see and smell for yourself.

Update 11:06 AM: Very few updates, probably because the fire appears to be standing still. Good news from Brett in a comment on yesterday’s updates:

I just went up to the top of the hill where I live, overlooking the ridge by Stunt and Las Flores area, looks much better than yesterday, no planes, no smoke visible, winds still strong in our favor.

Update 11:30 AM: The most-excellent M superimposed the very vague Malibu City Fire Map from 6 AM today on a map with roads and etc. that we can actually read. Click the map for image size options. Full-size version here. Thanks very much, M!
This pretty much confirms what we already know. (And because the fire hasn’t moved much, this is probably still accurate.) News to me was the small area of fire BETWEEN Las Flores and Topanga, by PCH. I haven’t heard any mention of that from anyone. I’ll be updating the Google Map shortly. M said in an instant message (and I agree): “Definitely heard nothing, but it could possibly match up with the reports that lower topanga had been under evac orders for a while.”

Update 11:37 AM: Update from T-CEP stamped 11:09 AM:

Residents are now able to go in and out of the Canyon with proper ID. Restrictions will be upheld in Zone 8. There will be no traffic into Zone 8, which begins at Tuna Canyon and Saddle Peak. Both roads are closed and Sheriffs are posted.

Update 12:01 PM Updated the Google Map with the info that M provided from the Malibu City Fire Map.

Update 12:14 PM: Krystal pointed me to a list of fire maps — many have been linked previously on this site, but others are new — they cover all of SoCal, focusing on the San Diego fires, as they are the largest and most serious at the moment.

Update 12:26 PM: News from T-CEP

October 23 – 12:02 PMThe smoke that Topanga Residents are currently seeing and smelling is being blown into the Canyon from other out-of-the-area fires.

Update 1:06 PM: From T-CEP

On Tuesday, October 23, at 7:00 p.m., the Los Angeles County Fire Department and the City of Malibu will conduct a community meeting to provide information regarding the Canyon Fire incident. Officials will discuss the current status and projections for lifting evacuation orders and re-opening roads. City officials, Sheriff’s Department representativea and Animal Control representatives will also be on hand to provide information and answer questions. This meeting will be held at Malibu High School, 30215 Morning View Drive.For those residents who are unable to attend the Tuesday meeting due to any remaining road closures, a second meeting will be held on Wednesday, October 24, at 7:00 p.m. at the Agoura / Calabasas Community Center located at 27040 Malibu Hills Road in Calabasas.

I won’t be there, but I’m thinking that T-CEP and other news sources will cover it. If you’re going to be there, please send me notes from the meeting to jschofield@gmail.com.

LA County Fire is reporting 22 structures damaged or destroyed in the Malibu / Canyon fire.

City of Malibu has updated road closure information:

While it is understandable that residents, business owners, and those who work in Malibu are anxious for roads to open, please note that roads must be kept clear for Fire and Sheriff’s personnel and for the many utility employees who are working to restore telephone, electric, and cable service. Please comply with road closures and stay out of the area unless absolutely necessary.Road closures: The following are “hard” road closures – closed to everyone, including residents:

* Malibu Canyon from Civic Center to Piuma
* PCH between Webb Way and Las Flores
* Schueren Road from south Saddle Peak and Stunt
* Piuma at Schueren
* Saddle Peak east of Schueren
* Tuna Canyon between PCH and Saddle Peak

PCH is open from the eastern city limits to Las Flores and from the western city limits to Webb Way. However, you will not be able to get past those points, even if you are a resident.

This information was provided by the Fire Department as of October 23 at 12:30 p.m.

Please note that road closures are subject to change as conditions change. The information provided here is based on information provided to us by the Fire and Sheriff’s Departments.

Update 1:17 PM: EXCITING NEWS City of Malibu has updated evacuation information.

Updated Evacuation Information (10/23/07 at 1:00 p.m.)The following evacuation orders remain in place:

Mandatory evacuations: Las Flores Canyon, Sweetwater Canyon, Carbon Canyon, Carbon Mesa, Rambla Pacifico, Topanga Tactical Zone 8, Top of Piuma and Schueren Road

Voluntary evacuations: None

I’ll call T-CEP to see if I can confirm that the voluntary evacuation orders have been rescinded.

Update 1:20 PM E-mail from SREWolf that I’m publishing verbatim:

Hey, your blog and maps have been very useful. However, please double check the meaning of the pink area near big
rock on the Malibu 6am map before announcing bundles of new fire
flames on your maps, you have people panicking on Topanga Online.
The pink is a different color and the boundaries are demarcated
differently than the fire area, so it probably means something
different. I called T-Cep and they have nothing for that area on
their fire perimeter map for 8am this morning. I called LACFD in
Malibu just a few minutes ago and the fireman who answered didn’t
know what the pink was, guessed that it was marking areas which are
evacuated

Also you might want to add a new symbol for extinguished fire (as
opposed to active).

Please pass this on to M as well. Thanks again for all your great
information.

I’ll look into updating the Google Map to show extinguished areas. Fire appears to be out on Western front, but I have no idea what extent of fire is at Eastern side. I’ve heard reports that it’s limited to Las Flores canyon, but I’m really not sure. If anyone has any confirmed information, please send it to me and I’ll update the map with that info. E-mail is jschofield@gmail.com.

Update 1:26 PM: Good news! I called T-CEP; they confirm that voluntary evacuation orders have been lifted. All mandatory evacuation orders continue unchanged.

Update 1:29 PM: List of County Road Closures [dead link]

Updated 1:36 PM: Updated Google Map. Fires in area along PCH between Las Flores and Topanga changed from fire symbols to question marks; they seem like they’re not likely to be a fire. Removed voluntary evacuation symbols. Changed some fire symbols on Eastern side of map to green. (There is no black fire symbol.) Would love to change more red fires to green; please send info to jschofield@gmail.com. (And if I’ve missed a notice in one of the items I’ve posted that should have changed a red to green, please let me know. There’s a lot going on here; I may have missed some.)

Update 1:48 PM: M sent me an updated burn map with the questionable area between Las Flores and Topanga removed. (View in highest-detail.)

Update 2:15 PM I have updated the Google Maps page to reflect the road closures on the LA County page. Things to note: It did not mention the residents-only closure at Topanga & Mulholland. Coupled with the lifting of the voluntary evacuation from the Northern Topanga Canyon area, that’s probably correct. I took it out. Also, “Latigo Canyon Road @ Mile Marker 2.08″ is closed; open to residents only. I have no idea where mile marker 2.08 is; placement of that road closure is approximate.

Update 2:38 PM: From T-CEP: “Change: Mandatory evacuation orders have been lifted for Powderhorn and Monte Vista roads.” Google Map update shortly. Symbol for a lifted mandatory evacuation is a martini glass.
Update 5:02 PM: LA County Fire says “Direction of the fire: Holding Still.” Good news again! NASA has updated satellite imagery. The City Of Calabasas says:

At least 4400 acres burned, 15% Contained
14 structures damaged, 8 destroyed
Current fire personnel on scene: 900The fire is currently limited to hot spots in the Piuma Road and Saddlepeak Road areas. The fire is NOT yet under control and high winds are expected this afternoon which could cause larger flare-ups to develop.

The City of Calabasas also had an update on Charter Communications cable/phone/internet status:

Charter Communications crews were in Malibu early on Tuesday to begin the restoration of fiber-optic lines destroyed on Sunday by the Malibu fires. Approximately 4,000 feet of fiber were burned near a critical crossing of Pacific Coast Highway, disrupting cable, Internet and telephone service for approximately 90 percent of Charter’s customers in the community.Charter crews are now installing wire strand to support the new cable. Services will return gradually; first telephone and Internet service followed closely by off-air broadcast signals and then digital cable channel. Charter expects that customers will have service restored between 6:30 and 8:30 pm this evening.

Charter advises that there may be “pockets” of customers who remain out of service due to fire damage not evident until the majority of service is restored. If customers continue to experience service-related interruptions after this time, they should call Charter Customer Service at 1-866-499-8080.

Update 5:17 PM: I’ve changed most of the active fires to inactive (green) on the Google Map. This is based on the information that the fire remains only in the Piuma Road and Saddle Peak Road areas. Please do NOT use this map for life-or-death decisions — I’m doing the best I can with vague, non-specific, and sometimes contradictory information. For instance I suspect that the fire is concentrated around the Eastern side of Piuma, and I could mark the ones on the West side as green — but I’m being conservative for now. As Brett pointed out in a comment below, it’s far better to celebrate too late than too early.

Update 5:25 PM: T-CEP says that all of Topanga Canyon Blvd. is open!

Updated 10-23 5:18pm
Topanga Cyn, Blvd is open to all with no restrictions.However, at this time, restrictions will be upheld in Zone 8. There will be no traffic into Zone 8, which begins at Tuna Canyon and Saddle Peak. Both roads are closed and Sheriffs are posted.

Zone 8 is closed, but Topanga Canyon Blvd. does not run through Zone 8. Called T-CEP. They confirmed that they were just told that all of Topanga Canyon was open from Mulholland to PCH. They could not confirm the exact location of the currently burning areas, but said the Eastern flank was around Las Flores and Piuma. I’m leaving it burning on the Google Map for all of Piuma until I get more confirmation.

Update 6:27 PM: Holy crap! LA County Fire says, “Direction of the Fire: No active fires at this time.” Is that fire-speak for “not burning?” I sure hope so!

Update 6:33 PM: City of Malibu says “6:15 p.m. 10/23/07 – Pacific Coast Highway is now open in both directions.” Good news! But LA County still lists PCH as closed. Hmm.

Update 6:39 PMJust called T-CEP; they confirm LA County Fire’s 15% containment figure but have heard nothing about “No active fires.”

Update 7:07 PMCity of Malibu reports 75% containment. That’s far higher than I’ve seen anyone else report. (All other sources say 15%.)

Update 7:18 PM: I’m standing down. Malibu fire appears to be no longer a threat to inhabited areas; it may be out altogether. Look here for updates (and e-mail me) if things get more active; otherwise the need for minute-by-minute updates appears to be past. Thanks VERY much to everyone who helped make this site useful. My thoughts go out to people in Malibu and Topanga who lost their homes, and people in other areas of Southern California who are still battling wildfires.

Malibu Fire, Day 2 (Oct 22)

October 22, 2007

Updates will be sketchy today; I’m at work and will be trying to get actual work done. Still evacuated; don’t know when I’ll be going back. Traffic in general in LA area a complete nightmare today, especially since Topanga is closed to traffic. Two+ hours to get to work today.

Update 10:10 AM: LA County Fire says 2400+ acres burned; still 0% containment.

Update 10:18 AM: Pepperdine updated their emergency page at 9:45 AM:

All classes on the Malibu campus have been cancelled for today, Oct. 22. Only critical support personnel should report to campus via PCH south from Kanan Dume Rd. The Pepperdine graduate campuses outside of Malibu will be open and classes will be held. Only critical communication systems, such as email, Internet connectivity, and telephone services, will likely be available today.

Students, faculty, and staff members who were relocated to the Tyler Campus Center, Payson Library, and Firestone Fieldhouse were allowed to return to their dorms and on-campus residences around 2 p.m. yesterday. All have been requested not to leave campus.

All roads leading to Pepperdine University are closed.

For regularly updated information, please call the toll free emergency hotline at (888) 286-5659.

Update 10:20 AM: More news from HereInMalibu, with photos:

Deep in the canyons the fire still burns, though nothing like the infernos in Canyon Country or San Diego County. Here in Malibu we’re in the watchful, woeful mode, just beginning to absorb the changes to our little town. Winds are high and so dry, your skin stretches tight and your lips crack. PCH is clamped shut, strict roadblocks at Puerco Canyon and Kanan Road. The Civic Center is a staging area for everyone who has a hand in keeping us safe.

Update 10:24 AM: From National Interagency Fire Center:

2,400 acres at 10 percent contained. This fire is two miles north of Milibu. Mandatory evacuations were implemented in Monte Nido, Malibu Colony, Malibu Road, Sweetwater Canyon, Puerco Canyon, Carbon Canyon, Carbon Mesa, Rambla Pacifica, Big Rock and Topanga Canyon tactical zone 8. Several roads in the area are closed.

Update 10:26 AM: Another bulletin with photo from HereInMalibu:

Our fire, about 2,500 acres, is now 10 percent contained. It burns east of Carbon Canyon, though with high winds, all parts of the city remain on alert. All schools here and in Topanga are closed.

Update 10:34 AM: More news from HereInMalibu:

The major update at this time: tanker planes now fighting the fire, which burns with renewed vigor, in Carbon Canyon area.

“Renewed vigor” in Carbon Canyon area is bad for Topanga.

Update 11:26 AM: LA County Fire confirms 10% containment figure.

Update 11:36 AM: Fire Fact Sheet from Malibu City:

This information was provided by the Fire Department:

Time of Alarm: 4:55 a.m. Sunday, October 21, 2007

Acres burned: 2400 acres

Current condition: 10% contained

Expected containment time: Unknown

Firefighters assigned: 1446+

Structures burned: 5 single family dwellings, 1 church, 1 commercial trailer

Structures damaged: 9 single family dwellings, 5 commercial businesses

Evacuation status: 500 homes / approximately 1500 people

Only really new information on fact sheet is that almost 1500 firefighters are assigned to the Malibu Fire. I suspect that the evacuation count does not include people (like me!) who live outside Malibu.

Update 10:39 AM: Malibu City Evacuation Status page has more detail on where in Topanga mandatory evacuation stops and voluntary starts.

Per information from the Fire Department:

All Mandatory evacuations remain in effect. The Topanga and Sunset Mesa voluntary evacuations also remain in place. Be alert and be prepared and continue to monitor television and radio news.

Mandatory evacuations:ᅠ Malibu Knolls, Malibu Colony, SweetwaterᅠCanyon, Malibu Road, ᅠCarbon Canyon, Carbon Mesa, Puerco Canyon, Rambla Pacifico, Monte Nido, Big Rock and Topanga Canyon south of Saddle Peak and Tuna Canyon

Voluntary evacuations:ᅠ Corral Canyon, Sunset Mesa, Old Topanaga Canyon, Hillside Drive and areas south

Red Cross Evacuation Centers have been set up at Agoura High School and Palisades High School.ᅠ

Update 11:49 AM: From LA Times:

The fire was pushed by winds that strengthened early today and threatened to continue east to Las Flores Canyon, a rustic community evacuated at 3 a.m.

Carbon Canyon is narrow, traversed by a serpentine two-lane road. Multimillion-dollar homes are along the ridgelines.

“We’re going to have this kind of activity every time the wind kicks up,” said Edward Osorio, a Los Angeles County Fire Department inspector. “We still only have 10% containment here, which is not a heck of a lot.”

Sheriff’s deputies who had assembled in Malibu began heading out to Las Flores Canyon to warn residents of the danger.

“We’ll be going door to door,” said one deputy as he headed off in his cruiser.

More than 1,500 firefighters were battling the blaze in Malibu. On Sunday, helicopters had been especially valuable, dropping retardant. The aircraft were on the ground during the night, but some reconnaissance flights resumed this morning with full aerial attacks expected later.

Los Angeles County Fire Department Capt. Bob Goldman stood this morning on the driveway of Fire Station No. 70 at Carbon Canyon Road and Pacific Coast Highway. Flames headed his way.

“This fire really fooled me. Last night when I went to bed I thought, ‘Ah, this fire is just going to punk around on the hillside, it’s not particularly active.’ But when I woke up this morning, I was shocked. I never thought it would reach my fire station.”

Like many fire officials, he said he was worried that the fire was on the verge of moving into nearby Las Flores Canyon, just to the east. The canyon is a designated “trigger point,” meaning that if it becomes engulfed in flames, plans call for ordering the evacuation of the 12,000 to 14,000 people who live in Topanga Canyon to the east.

I assume Las Flores Canyon is the trigger point for mandatory evacuation, because they’ve already called for voluntary evacuation of Topanga.

Other fires in the area are also wreaking havoc; they are diverting resources from Malibu to Orange County and San Diego. Appropriately, in my opinion — apparently 250,000 people have been evacuated in San Diego county.

Update 12:03 PM: According to City of Malibu Evacuation Information, Piuma Road south of Saddle Peak has been added to Voluntary evacuation list.

Update 12:05 PM: New from HereInMalibu

Cruising around Malibu this morning, the little red pickup offering a bit of camouflage amid all the red rescue vehicles.

Ralphs open and oddly empty. Firefighters resting and listening to scanners, buying something to drink. Clerks worried and heaping blessings upon us.

Here’s the clock tower next to Diedrich’s. Below that, especially ominous to a mobile home dweller like me, the melted remains of a construction trailer.

Update 12:10 PM: City Of Malibu has a not-particularly informative fire map. I can’t see road names or exactly where stuff is. My Google Map also updated, but since I can’t watch TV here, fire info not as recent. New info from Pepperdine’s emergency site:

Pepperdine University officials continue to work closely with local, county, and state fire officials regarding the Malibu Canyon fire.

At the present time, students, faculty, and staff on the Malibu campus remain safe following a brief period of being sheltered in place yesterday. All have been requested not to leave campus. All roads leading to the Malibu campus are closed. Information about the latest road closures is available on the road condition hotline at (310) 506-ROAD.

All classes on the Malibu campus have been cancelled for today, Oct. 22. All Pepperdine campuses outside Malibu are open for classes.

A decision will be made later today whether Malibu campus classes will be held tomorrow, Oct 23. Another update will be posted at 4 p.m.

Update 12:34 PM: LA County Fire has their own Google Map up. RCMurphy is posting more photos around Malibu Center.

Update 12:40 PM: Wanted to highlight this comment — see the original in the comments at the bottom of the page. This is about the City of Malibu fire map I mentioned earlier.

Did a quick photoshop superimposition of the Malibu map over a Google hybrid map, and it looks like you’d expect, based on the reports:
Malibu canyon to a little south of Piuma (northern extent); the pocket of untouched area near PCH is Cross Creek and near the Serra Retreat.

The eastern extent is past Sweetwater, nearing but about halfway between Sweetwater and Carbon Mesa.

As far as I can tell, assuming my overlay was lined up right.

Update 1:33 PM: News from HereInMalibu — Wind shift is bad news.

Upper Las Flores Canyon now in flames.

We can see lines of helicopters, which tank up at Pepperdine, vanish into the smoke as they dump water on the fire.

Noon. We feel it, see it, begin to gather on the bluff.

Wind shifts, fire shifts, and the first tiny tongue of flame appears.

Given what we’ve heard previously about fire in Las Flores triggering mandatory evacuations in Topanga, Topanga residents can probably expect to be told to leave shortly.

Update 1:42 PM: And there it is. I’m working from multiple, sometimes conflicting sources of information here — and I’m safely ensconced in Santa Monica where I can’t see anything firsthand — but it looks like all of Topanga is being evacuated. The below list includes “Topanga” (unqualified for the first time) and “Southwest portion of Topanga Canyon Boulevard.” This is timestamped 1:35 PM from the LA Times website:

The fires that swept through Malibu, Canyon Country and other parts of Southern California on Sunday forced several thousand residents to evacuate, triggered numerous road closures and prompted officials to cancel classes today at Pepperdine University and six schools in the Malibu area.

Canyon Fire in Malibu

Mandatory evacuations:

*Topanga Canyon

*Malibu Crest

*Serra Retreat

*Malibu Colony

*Malibu Knolls area

*Big Rock area

*Niedo

*Monte Nido area

*Rambla Pacifica

*Las Flores Canyon Road

*Carbon Canyon Road

*Tuna Canyon Road

*Malibu Road

*Sweetwater Canyon Road

*Carbon Mesa Road

*Puerco Canyon Road

*Powder Horn Ranch Road

*Monte Vista Drive

*Southwest portion of Topanga Canyon Boulevard

*Authorities also called for a voluntary evacuation of Corral Canyon Road and Sunset Mesa.

Those fleeing the fire were directed to two Red Cross shelters:

*Agoura High School, 28545 W. Driver Ave.; Agoura Hills

* Palisades Charter High School, 15777 Bowdoin St., Pacific Palisades

Road closures: Northbound Pacific Coast Highway at Topanga Canyon Boulevard. Southbound PCH at Kanan Dume Road. Southbound Las Virgenes Road at Mulholland Drive. Southbound Kanan Dume Road at Cornell. Las Virgenes Road at Piuma Road. Malibu Canyon Road between PCH and Piuma Road. Carbon Canyon Road at PCH. Big Rock Drive at PCH. Tuna Canyon Road at Saddle Peak Road. Topanga Canyon Boulevard at Mulholland Drive. Malibu Canyon Road at Mulholland Drive. Las Flores Canyon Road at Rambla Pacifica Road. Malibu Canyon Road at Civic Center Way. Only residents and emergency vehicles permitted on PCH between Kanan Dume Road and Topanga Canyon Boulevard.

School closures:

*Topanga Elementary School will be closed today, as will Calmont School in Topanga Canyon.

*Four schools in the Santa Monica-Malibu Unified School District will be closed:

*Malibu High School

*Cabrillo Elementary

*Webster Elementary

*Point Dume Elementary

For more information, residents can go to Malibu High School, 30215 Morning View Drive; call the Malibu city hotline at (310) 456-9982; visit www.ci.malibu.ca.us; or send an e-mail to malibucityhall@yahoo.com

Update 2:04 PM: Just spoke with my neighbor; he has not yet been told to mandatory evacuate. Called T-CEP: Eastern front of fire has crossed Piuma and is heading towards Schueren Road. Evacuation from Zones 2, 5, 6, 7, 9 is still voluntary. (T-CEP Zone Map) I’m in Zone 6. Fire is moving in NE direction. From T-CEP Status Page:

Los Angeles County Fire: AS OF 1:14PM MONDAY OCT 22
UPDATE:
Mandatory evacuation:
Piuma (entire road)
Schueren (entire road)
Voluntary evacuation for Zone 2,5,6,7,9 and Sunset Mesa.

Update 3:21 PM: City of Malibu Evacuation Info: Topanga south of Stunt Road is now mandatory evacuation. Old Topanga Canyon is now voluntary evac.

Per information from the Fire Department:

Mandatory evacuations:ᅠ Malibu Knolls, Malibu Colony, SweetwaterᅠCanyon, Malibu Road, ᅠCarbon Canyon, Carbon Mesa, Puerco Canyon, Rambla Pacifico, Monte Nido, Big Rock and Topanga Canyon south of Saddle Peak and Tuna Canyon, Schueren Road, Piuma Road. The evacuation route from Piuma and Schueren is Stunt Road to Mulholland to Topanga north.

Voluntary evacuations:ᅠ Corral Canyon, Sunset Mesa, Old Topanaga Canyon, Hillside Drive and areas south.

Red Cross Evacuation Centers have been set up at Agoura High School and Palisades High School.ᅠ An evacuation center is also set up at Malibu High School.

Update 3:34 PM: Here’s HereInMalibu‘s 3:12 PM update:

Up at the barn now, where the temp is in the 90s, but still, utterly still. Planes and helicopters dip in and out of the canyons, where a trace of smoke hangs in the sky.

Kanan Road is open, and people with local ID allowed in and out.

No gas stations open in Malibu, so conserve what you’ve got.

Update 3:46 PM: LA County Fire just upped fire size to 2700+ acres.

Update 4:20 PM: HereInMalibu says things are getting hotter — title of this photo is “wind shifts, flames appear.”

Update 4:44 PM: More news from Pepperdine:

Malibu Canyon Fire Update

Pepperdine officials have announced that it will not hold classes on the Malibu campus on Tuesday, October 23. Events scheduled for Tuesday on the Malibu campus have also been cancelled as the University continues to work closely with local, county, and state fire officials in response to the Malibu Canyon fire. Only critical SUPPORT personnel should report for work.

All Pepperdine campuses outside Malibu remain open for classes.

All roads leading to the Malibu campus are closed at this time. Information about current road closures is available on the road condition hotline at (310) 506-ROAD (7623).

At the present time, students, faculty, and staff on the Malibu campus remain safe and it is recommended that they not leave campus.

Update 4:51 PM: Di Sanders has some scary shots of the fire. I think it’s time for her to get away from wherever she’s standing:

Update 5:04 PM: This is a NASA satellite photo of the fires. The first taken at 11:35 AM; the second at 2:50 PM. Red outline shows the size of the fires at each time. Smoke plumes speak for themselves. Click the photo to go to NASA’s page on the fires.

Update 5:11 PM: Google map (not mine) showing all fires in Socal.

Update 5:21 PM: Some updates to road closures (info from T-CEP) on my Google Map.

Update 5:34 PM: News from CA OES:

Per OES staff at the Incident Command Post, the fire continues to burn and is currently at 2000 acres. There are 500 fire fighters assigned as the winds remain unpredictable.

News of note there is that there used to be almost 1500 firefighters; they’re clearly drawing down the force to take care of the other wildfires in the area. Other new news is that the burn area is up to 2000 acres.

Update 6:04 PM: More from HereInMalibu:

After a welcome afternoon lull, a sunset bout of wind. Fitful and fretful, not as sustained and scary as earlier today.

Here’s the view of Malibu’s most active fire, where a plane and three helicopters are making a final assault.

Update 6:19 PM: City of Malibu reports 2400 acres as of 5:30 PM. Also, their Fire Fact Sheet reports additional structures damaged and destroyed:

This information was provided by the Fire Department:

Time of Alarm: 4:55 a.m. Sunday, October 21, 2007

Acres burned: 2400 acres

Current condition: 10% contained

Expected containment time: Unknown

Firefighters assigned: 1446+

Structures burned: 6 single family dwellings, 1 church, 1 commercial trailer, two outbuildings

Structures damaged: 13 single family dwellings, 6 commercial businesses, 3 outbuildings, 2 classrooms

Evacuation status: 500 homes / approximately 1500 people

Update 6:23 PM: Sigh. LA County Fire now reports 2700+ acres.

Update 6:27 PM: I’m leaving work. I’ll be heading to my parents’ home to pick up my car, and will then check conditions and evaluate whether or not I can head up Topanga to clear some more stuff out of my house. (I’ve got all the REALLY important stuff — but there is some art on the walls, prints of my photos, etc. that I’d love to save. Still feel that my house won’t be in the path of the fire, but I’m much less confident than I used to be.

Update 10:54 PM: Headed up to Topanga. Had to show ID and phone bill to CHP to get past checkpoint at Topanga and Mulholland. (My ID doesn’t show my Topanga address.) Got a small load of stuff — paintings, framed photos, a few pieces of sculpture, and a bunch of clothes. Now back at the ‘rents and going to sleep. More updates tomorrow, again interspersed with work. (Hopefully with much more work.)

Update 8:44 AM Oct 23: Further updates will be posted here: http://blog.sudosu.net/2007/malibu-fire-day-3-oct-23/

I just got the call for voluntary evacuation, and I am heeding the call.

I have time (can’t see flames; they haven’t crested any hills around me) so I’m packing up essentials and heading to my parent’s house. With cats, which should go over wonderfully with the parents.

I’m turning off the computers now, and taking some of them with me. I may be blogging about this later tonight; I may not. If you have my phone number, feel free to call; especially if you’re worried. If you don’t have my phone number, feel free to direct-twitter me (http://twitter.com/schof) and it will be texted to my phone.

I strongly suspect that the flames will not reach my part of Topanga. Still, I’ve said all along that if I got the call for voluntary evacuation, I would go. I’m going.

Update 9:42 PM: Safely set up at my parents’ house. Several SEVERELY pissed-off cats hiding under my old single bed. All the essentials loaded in my car, and the house fire-proofed as much as possible. (Not very.)

Malibu Fire

October 21, 2007

I canceled hiking this morning; they are advising Topanga residents to listen to radio and television throughout the day in case the fire department issues evacuation orders. I’m putting valuable papers in my car and getting ready to pack up the cats and computers. I was heading south on PCH, saw dozens of fire trucks with sirens on heading North on PCH towards Malibu.

At that time (9 AM), PCH was open at least North past Topanga, and Topanga Canyon was completely open.

I’ll be posting updates as more information comes in on http://twitter.com/schof and here.

Update 10:39 AM: Fire is in the area around Pepperdine. I’m about 12.5 miles away from that by road; less as the bird (or fire) flies.

Update 10:45 AM: Malibu Castle completely engulfed in flame. Photos from fire on HereInMalibu’s Flickr page.

Update 10:48 AM: Fire has crossed PCH; some homes along beach engulfed by fires sparked by embers; firefighters fighting to keep neighboring houses intact.

Update 10:49 AM: Update from HereInMalibu:

Our Lady of Malibu’s school and Webster Elementary school now both in danger.

Three homes in flames on Malibu Road.

Fire crews at the Ralphs’ shopping center, where palm trees are in flames.

Update 10:52 AM: Some brush on fire on Pepperdine campus; no structures involved on campus yet; students and staff evacuated to Cafeteria and Gym; not yet evacuated off-site. Malibu Presbyterian Church fully-engulfed. CVS Pharmacy on PCH on fire, but not engulfed. On news saw firefighters on roof.

Update 10:55 AM: From HereInMalibu

Update 10:57 AM: Inspector Ron Haralson from LA County Fire (interviewed on Channel 2) says 700 acres involved in fire; was 500 acres around 8:30 AM. Pepperdine students and Malibu residents evacuated to centers at Zuma Beach; Red Cross on site to provide assistance. No injuries reported. Three businesses; multiple residences destroyed.

We’re listening to the scanner here in Paradise Cove. Now two fronts to the fire: east side of Malibu Canyon has burned through to PCH. West front still in the hills and now headed for the sea.

Fire in Serra Retreat. Spot fires in Civic Center.

Winds 50 mph. Gusts to 108 mph.

Copters sucking water from ponds at Pepperdine, which has been evaucated.

Update 11:01 AM: From Channel 2: 200 homes evacuated; five destroyed. Additional evacuation center at Agoura Hills High School.

Update 11:05 AM: From CBS2′s Fire Fact Sheet:

ROAD CLOSURES
• Northbound Pacific Coast Highway at Topanga Canyon Road
• Southbound Pacific Coast Highway at Kanan-Dume Road
• Northbound Topanga Canyon Road at Pacific Coast Highway
• Northbound Kanan-Dume Road at Pacific Coast Highway
• Southbound Topanga Kanan-Dume at Mulholland
• Southbound Las Virgenes at Mulholland

EVACUATIONS
• Residents in Puerco Canyon

EVACUATION CENTER
An evacuation center is located near Pacific Coast Highway and Trancas.

Update 11:19 AM: From LA County Fire Dept:

Malibu Wildfire is at 0% containment now at 700+ acres. Several homes have been destroyed. Currently Evacuation Center is at Zuma Beach area, 200 homes have been evacuated.

Update 11:25 AM: Castaic fire getting larger; resources being diverted from Malibu to Castaic. At least three wildfires currently in LA County.

Update 11:29 AM: HereInMalibu still on-site; this is how close she is to the fire.

Fire now 750 acres.

No one – not even residents – now allowed through to Malibu.

Update 11:33 AM: From Pepperdine Website:

 

There is a fire in Malibu Canyon, near Pepperdine’s Malibu campus. At this time, as a precaution, all students have been relocated in Firestone Fieldhouse and faculty and staff residents have been relocated to Tyler Campus Center. Pepperdine has implemented its shelter in place plan. No campus evacuations are planned at this time.

All campus events have been canceled for today

Road Closures: Pacific Coast Hwy is closed between Topanga Canyon and Kanan-Dume Road. Malibu Canyon Road is closed at Mulholland Hwy.

Update 11:40 AM: According to LA County Fire Department, fire now at 1000 acres, still 0% contained.

Update 11:55 AM: According to HereInMalibu, fire now at 1,200 acres. LA County Fire still says 1000.

Update 12:33 PM: Press Conference with Chief Micah Freeman of LA County Fire Dept. One thousand acres burned with zero containment. Aircraft are working the East flank of the fire because wind is driving the fire in SE direction parallel to PCH. No injuries to citizens or firefighters. Two commercial structures are a total loss; three residences are a total loss; 9 additional residences with moderate to minor damage. Four businesses at Colony Creek Shopping Center sustained damage. Fire is currently moving East towards Carbon Canyon area. Fire will last for days; thousands of homes will be threatened over course of fire. Voluntary evacuations: Coral Canyon, Carbon Canyon, Carbon Mesa, and Rambla Pacifica. Mandatory evacuations: Montenido, Malibu Colony, Puerco Canyon, Sweetwater Canyon. PCH is closed between Kanan Dune Road and Topanga Canyon; Topanga Canyon at PCH and Topanga Canyon at the valley side are closed to everyone but residents.

Update 12:58 PM: I created a Google Map of Mandatory and Voluntary evacuations based on the press conference above.

Update 1:19 PM: Photos from earlier in the day from HereInMalibu:

Update 1:27 PM: From emergency.pepperdine.edu:

The Malibu area is experiencing a significant brush fire under windy conditions. At this time, no pepperdine structures have been lost although the brush fire continues to burn around portions of campus. The L.A. County Fire Department is on hand with two strike teams and continues to monitor the situation carefully. Steps have been taken to shelter and place all faculty, staff, and students in the Tyler Campus Center, Firestone Fieldhouse, and Payson Library. Conditions can change rapidly, so all faculty, staff, and students are urged to stay in the three assigned locations and stay off campus roads.

All scheduled events on the Malibu campus for Sunday, October 21 have been canceled.

Malibu Canyon is closed from Mulholland to PCH and PCH is closed between Topanga and Kanan.

Update 1:47 PM: There’s a site just created for Malibu Fire coverage: http://www.malibufires.org/ (Via HereInMalibu.)

Update 1:50 PM: MalibuFire.org’s map of the fire:

I’ve also been updating my Google Map of fire progress and evacuations and road closures.

Update 1:54 PM: LA County Fire updated their status page:

Malibu Wildfire is at 0% containment now at 1000+ acres. Several homes have been destroyed. Currently Evacuation Center is at Zuma Beach area, Firestone Field House and Agoura High School.

Mandatory Evacuations:

  • Montenedo
  • Malibu Rd
  • Malibu Colony
  • Pepperdine
  • Malibu Crest
  • Serra Retreet
  • Big Rock

Information on Animal Evacuations are:
Large Animals (818) 991-0071 Desoto/Victory
Small Cats/Dogs evacuation location is
Agoura Shelter

Update 2:00 PM: If LA County Fire Dept. info is correct, Big Rock Road is being mandatory evacuated. That leapfrogged some voluntary evacuation notices, and appears to signal a significant move or threatened move of the fire to the East.

Update 2:53 PM: More news from HereInMalibu‘s scanner:

Fire moving in both directions – just dropped to the hill above the Malibu Pier and is running uphill toward Saddle Peak.

800 firefighter now in Malibu. 1,000 more on the way. Firefighters’ shift change has begun, with fresh companies relieving those who have been at work since before dawn.

Update 2:55 PM: LA County Fire says we’re now at 1200+ acres; still zero containment.

Update 2:58 PM: Pepperdine says:

Students, faculty, and staff members who were relocated to the Tyler Campus Center, Payson Library, and Firestone Fieldhouse were allowed to return to their dorms and on-campus residences around 2 p.m. All are requested not to leave campus.

The Health and Counseling Centers have relocated to the Rho parking lot and will remain open until 9 p.m. for all members of the Pepperdine community in need of their services. Flashlights will distributed throughout the Pepperdine community due to cyclical power outages.

All classes on the Malibu campus have been cancelled tomorrow, Oct. 22. Only critical support personnel should report to campus tomorrow. The Pepperdine graduate campuses outside of Malibu will be open tomorrow and classes will be held. Only critical communication systems, such as email, Internet connectivity, and telephone services, will likely be available.

This matches what I’ve been hearing about the fires around Malibu Canyon being largely out, and the main thrust of the fire now being Eastward along PCH.

Update 3:05 PM: MalibuFires.org just cut-and-pasted my entire coverage onto their front page. It’s all cool — this is about getting the information out there, not monetizing clicks.

Update 3:17 PM: Cable went out, so no more TV. I’ll try to stream something to get more reports. Verizon FIOS (obviously) still working.

Update 3:32 PM: Watching Channel 4 on streaming video now. I continue to update the Google Maps with new fire locations. Burning heavily on hills above PCH just West of Carbon Mesa road.

Update 3:35 PM: New photo from HereInMalibu:

Update 3:40 PM: Looks like the fire around Malibu Canyon is starting to burn again. So sez Channel 4.

Update 3:45 PM: MrPuffy has a bunch of photos from Saddle Peak Road looking down at the Malibu Fire. Channel 4 says 2000 acres burned; five residential structures destroyed; five commercial structures destroyed, and five residential structures damaged. Fire now appears to be moving West, says fire fighter interviewed.

Update 3:43 PM: News from HereInMalibu:

It’s been quiet for half an hour now. Absolutely no wind, but we know that can’t last. The fire burns south and east of us, zero percent contained, a hundred percent unpredictable.

Residents in the Cove are restless. We’re caught between two traffic stops – Malibu Canyon and Kanan Road. Can’t go south at all. North is iffy – you might get out, but chances of being allowed back in are slim. So we’re stuck, waiting to see what the wind will do, where the fire will go. We walk to the bluff to watch smoke waft from the cleft in the hills and wonder what piece of our sweet home town we’re losing now.

Update 3:53 PM: Updated Google Map; Voluntary Evacs changed to Mandatory. Got permission from MrPuffy to publish some shots:

UPDATE 4:01 PM: More from HereInMalibu:

And just like that, the fire heads west.

The wind kicked up again a few minutes ago, hot and strong and steady. Smoke pours out of Latigo Canyon, where planes and ‘copters swarm. Almost 4 p.m.. We’re heading into autumn dusk, an unsettling time to lose the light. Time to collect the dogs, pack the Plymouth and think about the best place to spend the night.

Update 4:14 PM: I see smoke North of me up Topanga Canyon. Not sure how that’s possible unless wind direction has shifted. Just had a water-dropping helicopter fly over my house. Getting close to hauling ass.

Update 4:21: I think the smoke I see is from the Chatsworth fire, as weather.com shows the wind coming out of the NE — which means it’s NOT blowing the fire towards me.

Update 4:40 PM: Press Conference with Zev Yaroslavsky: Mandatory evacuation of lower part of Topanga Canyon, Lower Tuna Canyon area. People in Topanga Canyon are asked to take large animals to Pierce College immediately as a precaution. Sherrif Lee Baca: Evacuated Pepperdine, central Malibu, Rambla Pacifico, Las Flores, Carbon Canyon, Big Rock have all been evacuated. Tuna Canyon is being evacuated. Ocean side (near beach) of Topanga Canyon is being evacuated.

LA County Fire Chief: Fire has consumed more than 1200 acres; they have made considerable progress. Fire is being held in Carbon Mesa/Carbon Canyon area by air drops. No air drops will made after dark. Fire still not contained. Winds will double after dark. Approximately 700 firefighters are on site; 350 additional coming in overnight. 1500 people have been evacuated. Another couple of days at least until fire is contained. Malibu Canyon road between PCH and Piuma is closed until further notice. PCH is closed between Kanaan Dune and Topanga. 5 single-family dwellings and two commercial buildings destroyed. 9 single-family dwellings damaged; 5 businesses damaged. Topanga Elementary closed tomorrow; all schools in Malibu closed tomorrow.

Update: 5:02 PM: From LA County Fire Site: School Closures Tomorrow:

Malibu HS, Malibu Middle School, Point Dune Elementary, Webster Elementary, Cabrillo Elementary

Update: 5:05 PM: Deneill took some great photos of the fire:

Update 5:08 PM: Feeling uneasy, but not yet evacuating. Fire seems to be holding firm at Carbon Canyon / Carbon Mesa. This is good, except that winds are expected to pick up at night, and the helicopters can’t drop water at night. They are performing mandatory evacuations in “Lower/Beach Side Topanga Canyon,” but I don’t really know how far that extends. I’m going to start loading up the car just in case, and getting the cat cages ready.

Update 5:43 PM: Chabad of Malibu evacuates their Torah:

Update 6:43 PM: Got the automated call asking me to evacuate. People South of Topanga Center should go south on Topanga to PCH, and then East on PCH to Pallisades High School. People North of Topanga Center (That’s me!) should head North on Topanga to the Valley, and…I didn’t really pay attention. I’m heading, cats-in-hand, to my parents house. Computer being shut down. Will update further tonight if possible.

NOTE: This is NOT a rush, panicked evacuation. We can’t see flames, and it’s probably just a precaution. Still, I said all along that when I got the voluntary evacuation notice, I would go. I’m going.

Update 10:07 AM, October 22: All additional news will be posted here, on an article for today’s date: http://blog.sudosu.net/2007/malibu-fire-day-2-oct-22/

K. and I broke up a few months ago, and I’ve been doing the online dating thing recently, with mixed success. Here’s some brief notes on the online dating sites I’ve tried, to hopefully speed other people through this process. I’m 35, male, straight, and live in Los Angeles — if you differ significantly from that, you may find some of these sites more or less useful than I did. (First link in each mini-review goes to the main site; second link goes to my profile.)

  • Consumating.com: Free site. Lots of hipsters in their 20′s. Not a lot of women in their 30′s. Has a fun, quirky vibe that makes it a kind of fun site to hang out on, but not terribly useful as a dating site. Everyone gets a numerical rank based on their points. (I have 29 points, which puts me in 4348th place.) Relive the unpopularity of high school, electronically. (For some reason they didn’t use that as their slogan.)
  • OKCupid.com: Free site. Another fun site with lots of games, quizzes, and etc., both created by editors and by other users. Slightly more oriented towards dating than Consumating, but just as filled with 20-somethings. Less of a “cooler-than-thou” vibe than Consumating. The site “gets to know you” by asking you hundreds of multiple choice questions submitted by users, and attempts to match you with people who have similar answers. Not very successfully, in my experience.
  • HotOrNot.com: Pay site. Triumph of the shallow. It’s all about the pictures. You get less than a paragraph to describe yourself, and the user base does not seem terribly literate. Again, mostly people in their teens and early 20′s. HotOrNot started as a site where you rate people’s “hotness” on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being highest. I signed up for HotOrNot in order to find out which of my photos were considered “hot” (or “least ugly”) so that I could use the higher rated pics on other dating sites. For that purpose, I highly recommend HotOrNot (and that part is free), but as a dating service, HotOrNot was an “eh” for me.
  • Impersonals.com: Free site. Honestly, by far my favorite of all the dating sites, at least as far as user interface and functionality. And the questions they ask produced my favorite of all the profiles I’ve created. A really cool site, without a lot of BS, and with a good feel to it. The downside: At least in my area and demographic, very few people. And very few additions — it seems to be foundering. I’d LIKE to like Impersonals — but there’s just very few women (of any age) in my area, and most of them are in their early 20′s.
  • PlentyOfFish.com: Free site. The MySpace of dating. Meaning it’s phenomenally popular, and phenomenally ugly. Good Lord, it’s ugly. If you care about user interface, web page aesthetics, or design of any kind, this site will make your eyes bleed. (As an example, they don’t crop pictures to squeeze them into a box, they just squeeze the picture into a box — so everyone looks either anorexic or like a sumo wrestler, depending on the aspect ratio of the original picture.) Still, it has the largest user pool of any site I’ve tried yet, and the users seem to include all ages. (I’m perfectly willing to date a brilliant and mature 18-year-old — but I think the odds of finding someone I’m compatible with are much better for women less than five years older or younger than I am.)
  • Gk2Gk.com (Geek 2 Geek): Pay site. Decent enough dating site — not as gimmicky or Ajaxy as OKCupid or Consumating — fairly standard, in fact, with the exception that the people on it are explicitly looking for geeks. Since I am one, this site goes high up on my list. Niche dating sites are apparently a big draw these days. The matching is no more effective than on any other site — perhaps less so for me, because although I’m a computer geek, I’m not most other types of geek — and almost all of the questions are related to zeroing in on what geek hobbies and/or obsessions you have. Geek 2 Geek has one annoying quirk: If you edit your profile (even changing one character in the title), then people are not able to view your profile and you’re not able to send a message to anyone until your profile has been approved by Geek 2 Geek staff. Geek 2 Geek does generally approve your changes within 24 hours (even on weekends) but it’s still an annoying bit of suckage. (Unlike every other pay site listed here, Geek 2 Geek will NOT automatically renew your subscription — which is a nice bit of class.)
  • Chemistry.com: Pay site. A service of Match.com, Chemistry attempts to do a “scientific” analysis of your personality, and match you up with compatible people. Their advertising targets eHarmony.com, a similar site that has some pretty distasteful limits. (For instance, eHarmony won’t serve gay people.) I have my doubts as to how effective the matching is, but the user-contact system they put in place seems to work very well. You get up to 10 “matches” a day, assigned to you by the system. If the system doesn’t assign you a match, you can’t look at them. (This is why I haven’t posted a link to my profile — as far as I know, I can’t.) You tell Chemistry if you’re attracted to each of the matches. If you say you are, Chemistry lets them know and lets them state whether they’re attracted to you. If they’re not interested in you, their name silently falls off your list of potential mates. Because of this, this is the first site I’ve seen where women will initiate contact with men in significant numbers. (On most other sites, the guy has to send the first e-mail — the sites let women initiate contact, it’s just that societal norms of men initiating contact in meatspace exist on dating sites as well.) Once you both agree that you find the other interesting, you answer some fairly meaningless questions about the importance of various personality traits by moving sliders to indicate importance. The other person does the same. Then, if both parties decide that the sliders match up enough, you take it to the next level. (I say the sliders are meaningless because — I mean really, if I rate “sense of humor” as important and she doesn’t, I’m not going to reject her. I’m going to try and find out if she laughs at my jokes and can make me laugh.) At the next stage, each party chooses two questions (from a list of a few dozen, or write your own) for the other party to answer in paragraph form. Each party reviews the other’s answers, and decides whether to take it to the next level, which is e-mail. After e-mailing back and forth, you can decide whether or not to meet in person. As I write this, it sounds HORRID — but perhaps because I’m a socially awkward geek, this computer-mediated dating really seems to work very well. It takes some of the initial awkwardness out of the introduction — and dating, online or in person, is awkward enough as it is.

I’m putting together a postinst (post installation) script for a Debian package I created for work. And there’s a little C program in there that needs to run as root, but be called by a regular user.

Well, there’s a standard way of doing that in Linux/Unix, called setuid. You set the “setuid bit” to on, and the program will run as the owner of the program. So, since it’s owned by root, a regular user can run a particular program, and have that program run with the permissions that root has. Very handy.

But I couldn’t figure out why the program was not being installed setuid root. I could see in the postinst script that the command was valid. I could cut-and-paste the chmod line (that set the setuid bit) from the script to the command-line, run it, and it worked perfectly. And there weren’t any other commands in the postinst script that affected permissions (the setuid bit is a permission bit) for that file.

However, there WAS a chown command later in the script. (It started in a parent directory and recursed into the directory with the C program I was dealing with.) Eventually, I narrowed it down to that chown line, and once I saw chown was the cause, I guess it sort of made sense. I was able to reproduce the problem by chowning a file after setting the setuid bit.

I guess from a security standpoint, you could do a lot of stupid things by setting the setuid bit (making a program operate as the owner of the program) and then changing the owner. So, to prevent you from shooting yourself in the foot, changing ownership of a file unsets the setuid bit.

Still, this seems somewhat counter to the philosophy of Unix — first, to not do unexpected things, and second, to give users approximately an order of magnitude more rope than they’d need to hang themselves. I can’t think of many other commands that silently prevent you from doing something that MAY be stupid. Unix usually assumes that you know what you’re doing — even to the point that you can enter a command to delete every file on your hard drive, and Unix will happily delete all your files without asking for confirmation. The fact that chown has this behavior was NOT obvious to me.

(This is a highly technical rant, and I’m writing it late at night after coding for a while — if it doesn’t make any sense, it’s probably me, not you.)